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 +====== Who Killed JFK? ======
  
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 +**or more specifically who did the key people inside the US government believe killed JFK.**
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 +The assassination of John F. Kennedy. Who killed JFK? In the height of the Cold War people within the administration of John F. Kennedy suspected a conspiracy. The majority of people are not satisfied with the official report. The following is some interesting words from people inside the administration and close to it.
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 +===== Exhibit A: President Johnson and Attorney General Robert Kennedy =====
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 +John/RFK discussion
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 +ROBERT KENNEDY: I understand that–you know–he sends all kinds of reports over to you about me and about the Department of Justice.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: Not any that I've seen. What are you talking about?
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 +ROBERT KENNEDY: Well, I just understand that–about me planning and plotting things.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: No, he hasn't sent me a report that I remember. He hasn't sent me any report on you or on the department any time. And I get, I guess, a letter every three or four days that summarize a good deal of stuff. And Walter Jenkins gets eight or ten of them a day on Yugoslavia, various routine things where people are talking. But as far as I know they haven't involved you.
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 +ROBERT KENNEDY: Well, I had understood that he had had some report about me.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: No, no.
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 +ROBERT KENNEDY: About the overthrow of the government by force and violence.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: No, no.
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 +ROBERT KENNEDY: Leading a coup.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: No. That's an error. He never said that or indicated or given any indication of it.
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 +**≡ Analysis: Kennedy is hinting to Johnson that requesting the FBI to gather dirt on him is counteracted, insured, deterred by a bluff? of evidence that implicates Johnson in a leading role in a conspiracy to murder JFK. These politicians exist in an environment where “getting the goods” on your adversary is insurance against scandal. Outwitting your adversary.**
 +
 +===== Exhibit B: President Johnson Walter Cronkite September 1969 Interview =====
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 +Interviewer: During a long interview I had with Mr. Johnson at the L.B.J. Ranch in September 1969. We talked about the Kennedy assassination, a portion of the interview was not broadcast at the presidents request on the grounds he said of national security. I asked Mr. Johnson then weather he was satisfied there was no international conspiracy in the assassination.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: I can't honestly say that I have ever been completely relieved of the fact that their might have been international connections.
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 +Interviewer: You mean you still feel that their might have been.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: Well I have not completely discounted.
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 +Interviewer: Well that would seem to indicate that you don't have full confidence in the warren commission report.
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 +PRESIDENT JOHNSON: No, no I think the warren commissions study and…I think first of all I think its composed of the most ablest, most judicious, bipartisan men in this country, second I think they had only one objective and that was the truth, the third I think they were competent and did they the best they could but I don't think that they or me or anyone else as always absolutely sure of everything that might have motivated Oswald or er others that er could of been involved.
 +
 +**≡ Analysis: LBJ believes in a conspiracy to kill JFK.**
 +
 +===== Exhibit C: Enter LBJ's Mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown =====
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 +In an 81.25 minute interview, she reveals an elite social group named the “Suite 8F group” and an environment of recreation, vice and business deals. Implicates oil men H.L Hunt the Richest man in America at the time, George Bush in Zapata Oil. Zapata oil was in waiting for off shore oil fields in Cuba that would have become accessible after the Bay of Pigs invasion. Implicates FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. Prior knowledge of Jack Ruby as a supplier of vice and L.B. Johnson being prepped to take the presidency. Along with Carlos Marcellos, Joe Savello, she implicates many other prominent people as being part of the social “8F group”.
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 +Mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown said that the plan to kill JFK had its origins in the 1960 Democratic Convention, at which John F. Kennedy was elected as presidential candidate with Johnson as his running mate, where H.L. Hunt, an American oil tycoon, and Lyndon Johnson hatched the assassination plot.
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 +Mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown “When they met in California Joe Kennedy, John Kennedy's father, and H.L. Hunt met three days prior to the election - they finally cut a deal according to John Currington (an aide to H.L. Hunt) and H.L. finally agreed that Lyndon would go as the vice president….this came from the horse's mouth way back in 1960 - when H.L. came back to Dallas I was walking….with him….and he made the remark, 'we may have lost a battle but we're going to win a war,' and then the day of the assassination he said 'well, we won the war',”.
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 +The group met for a party in Dallas hosted by Clint Murchison, another business tycoon with close links to the Genovese mafia, on November 21st 1963, the night before the assassination. Those present at the event included J. Edgar Hoover, Clyde Tolson, John J. McCloy, Jack Ruby, George Brown (of Brown and Root), numerous mafia kingpins, several newspaper and TV reporters, and Richard Nixon.
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 +The party began to wind down at around 11 o' clock when the attendees were shocked to witness the arrival of Lyndon Johnson who had traveled from Houston. Clint Murchison immediately called a meeting.
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 +“They all went in to this conference room…..Lyndon didn't stay that much in the meeting and when he came out….he grabbed me by the arm and he had this deep voice and he said, 'after tomorrow those S.O.B.'s will never embarrass me again - that's no threat - that's a promise.'
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 +**Suite 8F Group**
 +
 +The Suite 8F Group was a network of politically active businessman in Texas and other southern states in the early 1960s. The name comes from the room in the Lamar Hotel in Houston, Texas where they held their meetings.
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 +**Membership**
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 +Among the luminaries of the conservative Democrat political landscape that could be found in Suite 8F's roster were the following:
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 +  * George and Herman Brown of Brown and Root
 +  * Jesse H. Jones, an investor affiliated with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation
 +  * Gus Wortham of the American General Insurance Company
 +  * James Abercrombie of the Cameron Iron Works
 +  * Hugh Roy Cullen of Quintana Petroleum
 +  * Texas Governor William Hobby
 +  * William Vinson, Great Southern Life Insurance
 +  * James A. Elkins, American General Insurance and Pure Oil Pipe Line
 +  * Morgan J. Davis, of Humble Oil
 +  * Albert Thomas, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, Subcommittee on Defense
 +  * Lyndon B. Johnson
 +  * John Connally
 +  * Alvin Wirtz, Thomas Corcoran, Homer Thornberry and Edward Clark, were four lawyers who also worked closely with the Suite 8F Group.
 +
 +Suite 8F helped to coordinate the political activities of other right-wing politicians and businessmen based in the South; these included…
 +
 +  * Robert B. Anderson, president of the Texas Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association
 +  * Secretary of the Navy and Secretary of the Treasury; Robert Kerr of Kerr-McGee Oil Industries
 +  * Billie Sol Estes, an entrepreneur in the cotton industry
 +  * Glenn McCarthy of McCarthy Oil and Gas Company
 +  * Earl E. T. Smith, of U.S. Sugar Corporation
 +  * Fred Korth, Continental National Bank and Navy Secretary
 +  * Ross Sterling of Humble Oil
 +  * Texas oil magnates Sid Richardson and Clint Murchison, Sr.
 +  * H. L. Hunt of Placid Oil (The richest man in America at the time)
 +  * Eugene B. Germany (Mustang Oil Company)
 +  * David Harold Byrd, chairmain of Byrd Oil Corporation
 +  * Lawrence D. Bell, of Bell Helicopter
 +  * William D. Pawley (business interests in Cuba)
 +  * Gordon McLendon of KLIF
 +  * Senators George Smathers, Richard Russell, James Eastland, Benjamin Everett Jordan;
 +  * Lobbyists Fred Black and Bobby Baker, also affiliated with the Serve-U Corporation.
 +
 +**References**
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 +  * Robert Bryce, Cronies: Oil, the Bushes, and the Rise of Texas, America's Superstate (PublicAffairs, 2004).
 +  * Dan Briody, The Halliburton Agenda: The Politics of Oil and Money
 +
 +===== Article D: Richard Nixon David Frost Interview =====
 +
 +Referring to Richard Nixon`s escalation of the bombing campaign in the Vietnam War. Relates anecdote of George E Christian LBJ`s Press Secretary remark about LBJ`s involvement in the JFK assassination. Taken from the famous David Frost interview.
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 +Nixon: George E Christian LBJ`s Press Secretary and became press secretary for Governor Connonly who was our head of democrats for Nixon, we were meeting in the oval office I saw the morning new report and I just happened to casually mention to George, “Well I bet ya, that President Johnson is going to be real pleased when he find that now they are calling me the number one bomber” George Christian said Oh, don't be to sure, you know LBJ he never likes to be number two.
 +
 +**≡ Analysis: Self Explanatory, George E Christian LBJ`s Press Secretary believes L.B.J. conspired to kill Kennedy in ambition and Nixon concurs by revealing the story.**
 +
 +===== Article E: William B MacFarland Former assistant to President John F Kennedy On Rob McConnell in an 'X' Zone Radio Show =====
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 +Former assistant to President John F Kennedy, William B MacFarland told Rob McConnell in an 'X' Zone Radio Show interview on Thursday, May 17 2012 that the assassination of JFK was a conspiracy, Lyndon B Johnson was involved, and Lee Harvey Oswald was not even involved.
 +
 +About William Bertram MacFarland: William Bertram MacFarland never sought, or even imagined, a role as a special assistant to President John F. Kennedy. Eager for adventure and travel after graduating from Duke University with degrees in mathematics and physics, MacFarland entered the intelligence arm of the government, did extensive military training, became a U.S. Army Ranger, trained in special operations and hand to hand combat techniques and advanced parachute training, and went through intensive training in Russian language and culture at the language school in Monterrey, California. He was assigned as a diplomatic courier to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow when he was turned over to the Soviet Union. He was ultimately rescued, near the point of death, in a clandestine operation carried out by two high-ranking Soviet generals and was entrusted by them with information which became vital to the peaceful resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis. He describes himself as “a patriot, a soldier, a spy, and an assassin.”
 +
 +**≡ Analysis: William B MacFarland former assistant to President John F Kennedy believes in a conspiracy plot.**
 +
 +===== Article F: The Whole Bay Of Pigs Thing - Richard Nixon =====
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 +Nixon watergate tapes 'smoking gun' section where Richard Nixon makes a statement quote: Nixon: When you get in these people when you…get these people in, say: “Look, the problem is that this will open the whole, the whole Bay of Pigs thing, and the President just feels that” ah, without going into the details… don’t, don’t lie to them to the extent to say there is no involvement, but just say this is sort of a comedy of errors, bizarre, without getting into it, “the President believes that it is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah because these people are plugging for, for keeps and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for the country, don’t go any further into this case”, period!
 +
 +The conversation is with H. R. Haldeman.
 +
 +//Start transcript…//
 +
 +Haldeman: okay -that’s fine. Now, on the investigation, you know, the Democratic break-in thing, we’re back to the-in the, the problem area because the FBI is not under control, because Gray doesn’t exactly know how to control them, and they have, their investigation is now leading into some productive areas, because they’ve been able to trace the money, not through the money itself, but through the bank, you know, sources – the banker himself. And, and it goes in some directions we don’t want it to go. Ah, also there have been some things, like an informant came in off the street to the FBI in Miami, who was a photographer or has a friend who is a photographer who developed some films through this guy, Barker, and the films had pictures of Democratic National Committee letter head documents and things. So I guess, so it’s things like that that are gonna, that are filtering in. Mitchell came up with yesterday, and John Dean analyzed very carefully last night and concludes, concurs now with Mitchell’s recommendation that the only way to solve this, and we’re set up beautifully to do it, ah, in that and that…the only network that paid any attention to it last night was NBC…they did a massive story on the Cuban…
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 +Nixon: That’s right.
 +
 +Haldeman: thing.
 +
 +Nixon: Right.
 +
 +Haldeman: That the way to handle this now is for us to have Walters call Pat Gray and just say, “Stay the hell out of this…this is ah, business here we don’t want you to go any further on it.” That’s not an unusual development,
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 +Nixon: Um huh.
 +
 +Haldeman: …and, uh, that would take care of it.
 +
 +Nixon: What about Pat Gray, ah, you mean he doesn’t want to?
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 +Haldeman: Pat does want to. He doesn’t know how to, and he doesn’t have, he doesn’t have any basis for doing it. Given this, he will then have the basis. He’ll call Mark Felt in, and the two of them …and Mark Felt wants to cooperate because…
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 +Nixon: Yeah.
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 +Haldeman: he’s ambitious…
 +
 +Nixon: Yeah.
 +
 +Haldeman: Ah, he’ll call him in and say, “We’ve got the signal from across the river to, to put the hold on this.” And that will fit rather well because the FBI agents who are working the case, at this point, feel that’s what it is. This is CIA.
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 +Nixon: But they’ve traced the money to ‘em.
 +
 +Haldeman: Well they have, they’ve traced to a name, but they haven’t gotten to the guy yet.
 +
 +Nixon: Would it be somebody here?
 +
 +Haldeman: Ken Dahlberg.
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 +Nixon: Who the hell is Ken Dahlberg?
 +
 +Haldeman: He’s ah, he gave $25,000 in Minnesota and ah, the check went directly in to this, to this guy Barker.
 +
 +Nixon: Maybe he’s a …bum.
 +
 +Nixon: He didn’t get this from the committee though, from Stans.
 +
 +Haldeman: Yeah. It is. It is. It’s directly traceable and there’s some more through some Texas people in–that went to the Mexican bank which they can also trace to the Mexican bank…they’ll get their names today. And (pause)
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 +Nixon: Well, I mean, ah, there’s no way… I’m just thinking if they don’t cooperate, what do they say? They they, they were approached by the Cubans. That’s what Dahlberg has to say, the Texans too. Is that the idea?
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 +Haldeman: Well, if they will. But then we’re relying on more and more people all the time. That’s the problem. And ah, they’ll stop if we could, if we take this other step.
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 +Nixon: All right. Fine.
 +
 +Haldeman: And, and they seem to feel the thing to do is get them to stop?
 +
 +Nixon: Right, fine.
 +
 +Haldeman: They say the only way to do that is from White House instructions. And it’s got to be to Helms and, ah, what’s his name…? Walters.
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 +Nixon: Walters.
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 +Haldeman: And the proposal would be that Ehrlichman (coughs) and I call them in
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 +Nixon: All right, fine.
 +
 +Haldeman: and say, ah…
 +
 +Nixon: How do you call him in, I mean you just, well, we protected Helms from one hell of a lot of things.
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 +Haldeman: That’s what Ehrlichman says.
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 +Nixon: Of course, this is a, this is a Hunt, you will-that will uncover a lot of things. You open that scab there’s a hell of a lot of things and that we just feel that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further. This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves. Well what the hell, did Mitchell know about this thing to any much of a degree.
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 +Haldeman: I think so. I don ‘t think he knew the details, but I think he knew.
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 +Nixon: He didn’t know how it was going to be handled though, with Dahlberg and the Texans and so forth? Well who was the asshole that did? (Unintelligible) Is it Liddy? Is that the fellow? He must be a little nuts.
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 +Haldeman: He is.
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 +Nixon: I mean he just isn’t well screwed on is he? Isn’t that the problem?
 +
 +Haldeman: No, but he was under pressure, apparently, to get more information, and as he got more pressure, he pushed the people harder to move harder on…
 +
 +Nixon: Pressure from Mitchell?
 +
 +Haldeman: Apparently.
 +
 +Nixon: Oh, Mitchell, Mitchell was at the point that you made on this, that exactly what I need from you is on the–
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 +Haldeman: Gemstone, yeah.
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 +Nixon: All right, fine, I understand it all. We won’t second-guess Mitchell and the rest. Thank God it wasn’t Colson.
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 +Haldeman: The FBI interviewed Colson yesterday. They determined that would be a good thing to do.
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 +Nixon: Um hum.
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 +Haldeman: Ah, to have him take a…
 +
 +Nixon: Um hum.
 +
 +Haldeman: An interrogation, which he did, and that, the FBI guys working the case had concluded that there were one or two possibilities, one, that this was a White House, they don’t think that there is anything at the Election Committee, they think it was either a White House operation and they had some obscure reasons for it, non political,
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 +Nixon: Uh huh.
 +
 +Haldeman: or it was a…
 +
 +Nixon: Cuban thing-
 +
 +Haldeman: Cubans and the CIA. And after their interrogation of, of…
 +
 +Nixon: Colson.
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 +Haldeman: Colson, yesterday, they concluded it was not the White House, but are now convinced it is a CIA thing, so the CIA turn off would…
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 +Nixon: Well, not sure of their analysis, I’m not going to get that involved. I’m (unintelligible).
 +
 +Haldeman: No, sir. We don’t want you to.
 +
 +Nixon: You call them in.
 +
 +Nixon: Good. Good deal! Play it tough. That’s the way they play it and that’s the way we are going to play it.
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 +Haldeman: O.K. We’ll do it.
 +
 +Nixon: Yeah, when I saw that news summary item, I of course knew it was a bunch of crap, but I thought ah, well it’s good to have them off on this wild hair thing because when they start bugging us, which they have, we’ll know our little boys will not know how to handle it. I hope they will though. You never know. Maybe, you think about it. Good!
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 +Nixon: When you get in these people when you…get these people in, say: “Look, the problem is that this will open the whole, the whole Bay of Pigs thing, and the President just feels that” ah, without going into the details… don’t, don’t lie to them to the extent to say there is no involvement, but just say this is sort of a comedy of errors, bizarre, without getting into it, “the President believes that it is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah because these people are plugging for, for keeps and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for the country, don’t go any further into this case”, period!
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 +Haldeman: OK.
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 +Nixon: That’s the way to put it, do it straight (Unintelligible)
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 +Haldeman: Get more done for our cause by the opposition than by us at this point.
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 +Nixon: You think so?
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 +Haldeman: I think so, yeah.
 +
 +End transcript…
 +
 +In 1978, H. R. Haldeman co-authored The Ends of Power with Joseph Di Mona, in which he took responsibility for fostering the atmosphere in which Watergate flourished, a stark contrast from Ehrlichman, who never forgave Nixon for not pardoning him. Also in the book, Haldeman explained Nixon's statement in the Watergate tapes that Watergate could “open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing”. Haldeman said that “Bay of Pigs” was a reference to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
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 +**≡ Analysis: Richard Nixon believes that their was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy and is wanting Watergate to end by warning that progression of Watergate with re-raise the temperature on the unresolved Kennedy assassination.** 
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